Bad Logic on CN -- again

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Posted Today, 07:01 AM

lainev, on 21 Oct 2020 - 04:09 AM, said:

Not to hijack the thread but Topaz DeNoise AI can bring a little more sharpness. I applied TDN to your image with this result.

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Dont use topaz noise AI for planetary imaging under any circumstances. Yes, it brings sharpness, but it does it by guessing and inventing the original content based on its experience of similar looking images. Its fakery.....its art - the clue is the 'AI'. It is very intelligent, but it isnt quantitative or scientific.

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More idiots on CN think they are somehow doing scientific work when they are making their little planetary images.  And moreover, if you aren't doing it their way, then you are somehow engaging in an errant or wrong-headed activity.   These idiots think that because NASA publishes a Hubble photo that it's the most authentic thing possible and that there was no manipulation of the data at all.  

The implication is that art is just fakery and probably a delusion.  "Real" images don't engage in fakery and delusion -- vis a vis manipulation.

When the image hits the eye and a person experiences something, it's all been a manipulation of 0's and 1's.  The pure data is just numbers, there is no natural image.   Even if you were "there", there's no way we can verify that one person is experiencing exactly the same thing as someone else.   The nature of experience is personal and subjective -- partly because our experiences are black boxes of sorts that can't be scientifically proven to be identical to anyone else's.   Even if you tried to pin an experience down to electrical and chemical signals in the brain, there's no way that one's electrical and chemical signals are identical to someone else's.   

Of course, we have language and references that can correspond to others'.  But there's a difference between correspondence and being identical.  There are differences between the vagaries of using functional language to communicate and the idea of exact experiences.   Mathematics can be an exact activity but it falls short when dealing with questions of meaning and significance.